Daily #F1 News and Comment: Thursday October 31st 2013

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Mateschitz: Ongoing RB9 Development is an advatage for 2014 (05:00)

Fat Hippo’s Rant: Bernie do something! (05:00)

Baptism of Fire and egg on Gary’s face (07:00)

Special Edition Cars named after Drivers (09:00)

Red Bull hands out Donuts (13:00)

Ferrari desperate to win something (16:57)

Quantum is no more (17:11)

Jenson feigns surprise (17:43)

Alonso tetchy (18:10)

Ainslie sets sail for Abu Dhabi (18:15)

Raikkonen absent from his media duties (18:48)

FIA releases engine usage list


Mateschitz: Ongoing RB9 Development is an advatage for 2014

While many teams gave up on their 2013 challengers relatively early in the season, Red Bull continued to update the RB9 with new parts, which played a part in the team’s utter domination after the summer break. But while many expect (or hope) that Red Bull will therefore be late to the party with their 2014 vehicle, owner Dietrich Mateschitz believes that the continued work on this year’s steed is actually an advantage.

“I don’t think it [the continued development] is only an investment for 2013. Despite the different technical framework in 2014, we expect that fifty percent – give or take a few – of the recent development work will directly translate to 2014. The rest maybe wrong or useless, but we have a good base to work with.”

Fat Hippo’s Rant: Bernie do something!

In recent seasons we’ve seen endless attempts to tamper with “the show” of F1. The cars were massively uglyfied by mucking up their dimensions through narrow rear wings and snow-plow style front wings, KERS was (re-)introduced, DRS was implemented for insta-overtakes that need no skill whatsoever and Pirelli was told to build shyte tyres, something they succeeded spectacularily in achieving. But instead of turning F1 into a remote controlled car race, how about not trying to turn ‘old F1’ into a spectacle, but creating an F1 that actually is a spectacle? Hm? Bernie? Makes too much sense, I suppose…

Instead of loitering about in places that nobody cares about and visiting one Tilke-drome after the other, F1 should go to places that people actually would want to see. Why does F1 speculate on the New Jersey course actually getting built, when with Road America, Portland, Mid-Ohio, Laguna Seca, Sebring, Sears Point and Watkins Glen there are myriads of circuits to choose from that have truck loads more character than another new gimmicky track with huge tarmac run-off areas?

And why do all the races have to be the same old tedium? Instead of bloating the season to NASCRAP-esque proportions with 30 races, how about keeping it at 18, but making some of them a bit more special? Races at historic Venues, for instance Silverstone, Monza and Spa should be the “Triple Crown”. These three races could be scored by the current points scheme, while all other races return to the less Waldorff-style 10-6-4-3-2-1 system. That would make these established races much more important.

And what about re-introducing the Indy 500 into F1? The Indycars are spec cars and can be bought for peanuts by F1 standards. Instead of having a 4 week break in summer, when people actually have the most time to watch F1, due to vacations, how about sending the teams over to Americaland for the month of May? And if that doesn’t seem suitable, how about running an own Superspeedway race? We have one bang smack in the middle of Europe – it’s called the Eurospeedway.

Not every season can go down to the last race, but why not make the last race of the season a bit more special in that case? Take the standings after the penultimate race and reverse it. That means Max Chilton gets Seb’s car, while the Weltmeister will have to slog around in a Marussia as Team mate to Fernando Alonso, who as the 2nd placed driver will have to switch cars with the 2nd-to-last, which for the sake of argument is assumed to be Chilton’s team mate Bianchi. Now that’s something that I would get up in the middle of the night for.

I’m a veritable fountain of good advice Bernie and it’s available for free. Just give me call. The GHCQ and the NSA already have my number and adress and shoe size and … *click*

Baptism of Fire and egg on Gary’s face

Like former Minardi team boss Giancarlo Minardi, former Jordan TD turned TV pundit Gary Anderson found himself with a bit of unborn chicken on his face after his moveable undertray theory went bust as the FIA literally turned up the heat on the RB9.

Anderson had noted that due to the cars’ rake the ‘tea tray’ of both the Red Bull and the Mercedes challenger would normally scrape on the surface, which would be detrimental to both performance and reliability. He therefor concluded that RB must be using a heat-sensitive material, otherwise known as metal, to raise or deform the ‘tea tray’. When the FIA heated up the device to over 300° centigrade, however, the thing didn’t move or deform even slightly and Anderson’s theory went the way of the Dodo.

Mind you, this is not a private crusade of Anderson against Red Bull or Mercedes. It is a tradition as old as F1 itself. If you can’t beat ’em, have ’em declared illegal. There are two traditional ways, how this ritual war is fought. The first weapon of choice is the protest. If a team thinks a competitor has a dodgy solution or part, they lodge a protest and if they succeed, the competitor’s machine will be deemed illegal. It’s a great way to try and modify unfavourable race results.

The much more sneaky and elegant approach is to ask for clarification. A team asks for clarification on another team’s solution and in either case the result will be favourable. If the part is against the rules, it will be deemed illegal, like RB’s holed floor at Monaco. If not, the FIA has to write up a detailled technical analysis, why the solution is legal and therefore delivers a perfect HOWTO-tutorial on how to copy it. A prominent example was Brawn’s double diffuser in 2009.

Special Edition Cars named after Drivers

Drivers, who’s team is involved with a major car manufacturer sometimes get their own special edition car. Here are some special editions from the past:

Alfa Romeo Spider Niki Lauda Edition

Alfa Romeo Spider Niki Lauda Edition

Built by Alfa-Romeo, this car celebrated the heroics of the Austrian champion for their sister company Ferrari.

Honda/Acura NSX Alex Zanardi Edition

Honda/Acura NSX Alex Zanardi Edition

After his two back-to-back titles in the american Chapcar series, Honda sold 50 special editions through their premium brand Acura. One of them belongs to Zanardi himself.
Strangely there is no Senna edition of the NSX, despite the fact that the suspension of the first NSX’s in the early 90s was setup by Senna himself. Unfortunately though Honda had to change it after the first production batch. The car handled brilliantly, but it ate through tyres at an alarming rate.

Ferrari FXX Schumacher Edition

Ferrari FXX Schumacher Edition

A special edition of a very rare special edition. Only 30 FXX’s were built and one of them belongs to Schumacher himself

Infiniti FX Sebastian Vettel Edition

Infiniti FX Sebastian Vettel Edition

Nissan’s premium brand created this tuned SUV based on their F50. The body work has been tampered with by Red Bull and the suspension was setup by the man himself.

Mitsubishi Evo VI Tommy Mäkkinen Edition

Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI Tommy Mäkkinen Edition

A special edition to celebrate Tommi Mäkkinens fourth championship title with the marque.

Fiat Seicento Michael Schumacher Edition

Fiat Seicento Michael Schumacher Edition

This special version of the otherwise not exactly hot Fiat 600 was given a makeover by FIAT’s house tuner Abarth and adorned with the iconic Schumacher logo.

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Red Bull hands out Donuts

Inspired by their young 4 times world champion Red Bull Racing has decided to hand out more donuts…

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Ferrari desperate to win something

Since edging out both Brawn and Schumacher, the proud team from Maranello have had thin pickings in winning titles. Interestingly at the FIA drivers’ press conference nobody appeared to have the balls to ask Alonso either how he feels he will fare against Kimi in 2014, or mention the fact that Kimi is actually Ferrari’s last world champion.

Instead we got a rather insipid question about what Fernando thought of Kimi as a man and a driver. He predictably replied, “Personally, I cannot say anything because I do not know him enough to speak about him personally. As a driver, he’s a great champion, great talent, very very fast. He likes what he’s doing. That’s the best thing”

However, Ferrari are squabbling behind the scenes in an attempt to claim some kind of historic glory from what may yet be a miserable year and a 4th place finish in the constructors championship. They claim they did a pit stop in Japan of just 1.95 seconds.

Yet Mercedes were credited with the fastest pit stop ever, stopping the clock at 2.02 seconds – 0.04 seconds faster than the previous record.

Mercedes team manager, Ron Meadows explains the discrepancy. “It’s always a question of what you measure, and how you measure it.” Ferrari have a device which records their stops from a gantry above the pit box, yet Mercedes’ time is awarded by the British broadcaster Sky. SAKY clocked the pitstop Ferrari claim to be sub 2 seconds at 2.11s.

Oh well lads from Maranello… something else slips through the red teams fingers. Though if Ferrari really want a prize, they can console themselves with the fact that they are the leading red car in the constructors…. I guess.

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Quantum is no more

Infinity Racing bizarrely lasted a couple of months only. Mmm

Quantum physics is a branch of science that deals with discrete, invisible and indivisible units of energy called quanta. TJ13 is hearing that as suggested here previously, Quantum Motorsports’ is now an indivisible unit of inertia, invisible and has slipped away quietly into the night.

So no deal for Lotus and Maldonado should he have any money will become favourite for Kimi’s vacant seat. Though if I were Genii, I’d make sure the dollars are in the bank before announcing the Venezuelan – lest they find themselves with a Razia-esque scenario.

The team is suffering too much embarrassment from a financial management front and it needs to stop.

More as we get it.

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Jenson feigns surprise

Over the years, one of the things Jenson has become a master of is the quizzical look of feigned surprise. When questioned in the Spa paddock last year over Lewis’ indiscretion in the twittersphere – he gave a master class performance – conveying at first ignorance to the event and then a whimsical ‘this makes no sense’  response thus avoiding being critical of Lewis’ or making any serious comment. Of course later his position changed to one of wonderment, which of course played also to his advantage.

Speaking in Abu DHabi today, Jenson gave a similar cameo of feigned surprise. Almost as though the words he was speaking were thoughts he had not considered previously. Asked about Brawn leaving Mercedes Jenson replied, “It would be a loss to the team that he was working for I think, it’s not a loss to the rest of us – it’s actually a good thing,”

Jenson has previously been on record expressing admiration for Brawn and again today he stated, “Ross is a great team leader, he’s very strong and he’s a very confident individual. I think everyone needs someone like Ross in their team. So surprised to see that he’s leaving. There are obviously some reasons for that, but difficult to know what they are.”

Indeed Jenson, “everyone needs someone like Ross in their team” and McLaren do not have one do they?

Lewis’, since struck by the lightening bolt from heaven and receiving divine love in abundance though has done a U-Turn on the Ross Brawn matter. Lewis has admitted his move to Mercedes was influenced by the opportunity to work with Brawn. In Bahrain when all the Paddy Lowe to oust Brawn speculation was flitting about, Lewis made it clear, “I signed with Ross being here, and I’m very happy working with him”.

Last week he said he was urging Brawn not to leave, but today Hamilton tries to do a Jenson and pull off ambivalence. “We have a lot of great people in the team so I’m sure the team will be strong either way and I’m really looking forward to seeing what we can do next year. 

There were much bigger reasons why I joined the team and having him at the team was a bonus. I’ve learnt who everyone is in the team and we have some incredibly talented people here. He has a great approach, and helps create a great atmosphere, but I hope that’s the case with all bosses”.

Mmm. Lewis I suggest you get some acting lessons from Jenson….

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Alonso tetchy

The FIA press conference was fairly dull as usual but incredibly short. Clearly no one in the written media is that bothered about F1 now Vettel has won the WDC. We had Hamilton sat in front of Sutil and whilst both have been questioned on their relationship individually earlier in the year, we have never had this kind of opportunity.

Hamilton has previously inferred he would like to put matters right with Adrian and Sutil has said the door has been open but Hamilton’s never bothered. WHY oh WHY was an update of this situation not investigated?

I mean.. now Lewis is the mortal embodiment of divine love and forgiveness, this topic must and should have been pursued.

Anyway nada.

One bright moment in the otherwise tedious affair was when Alosnso was asked, “How has your relationship with the team evolved over the course of the year, particularly in terms of steering a course for the future?”

Fernando replied with a hint of sarcasm – whilst attempting ‘dead pan’. “It’s fantastic. Obviously, every weekend I repeat the same thing. So I guess in Austin on Thursday the first question in the press conference will be how is my relationship with the team”.

To be fair to the questioner, he checked Alonso and pointed out he had actually asked how the relationship had evolved? Which is a clever question,

Alonso retorted, “It was perfect, it’s perfect and it will be perfect”. Its a shame the questioner didn’t press Alonso further.

Hey Fernando – the reason you are continually asked is because your team are stabbing you in the back – Il Padrino tweaking your ear – team management calling you the ‘shit layer’ when you’re not present – telling the world you need baby sitting….. Oh great Samuri please forgive us for enquiring about what is perfectly obvious to the rest of the world.

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Ainslie sets sail for Abu Dhabi

The America’s Cup is held every three to five years, with the winner choosing the next venue, date and type of boats. This year saw the cup contested in the bay of San Fransico and USA team Oracle drafted Britain’s Ben Ainslie as tactician. He helped them fight back from 8-1 down to beat team New Zealand 9-8 in a remarkable series.

Deatails of the where and when of the next America’s cup will be announced in the spring of 2014 and Ainslie is trying to put together a British bid to bring the event back to British waters for the first time in 160 years.

He recently said the coming weeks, up to Christmas, will be crucial in shaping the British line-up as they hunt for £80million in backing. It appears part of this funding drive will be a meeting between Ainslie and Adrian Newey this weekend at the Yas Marina Bay facility, according to the Mirror.

Ainslie comments, “Someone with his design and technical experience would be invaluable.”

So the clock may be ticking for Red Bull who have recently lost .Peter Prodromou – head of aerodynamics – and his number 2, Dan Fallows.

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Raikkonen absent from his media duties

The paddock was rife with talk of Kimi’s absence from his usual media duties on the day before Friday practice. Many journalists tweeted the fact the Kimi was conspicuous in his absence and when questioned, a spokesperson for the team stoically stated what was obvious to all, “He’s not here – yet”.

Following Alan Permane’s public chastisement of Lotus’ departing Finnish maestro during the Indian GP across the team radio, stories have been circulating that the Iceman who has not been paid his dues by Genii, was about to fulfil his threat to ‘bugger off’.

Those fears were dispelled when news came through that Raikkonen had boarded a plane to Abu Dhabi this afternoon, yet it is understood that his decision to appear this weekend was following last minute peace talks between members of the Lotus hierarchy and the Finn.

The normally chirpy Lotus social media has been most subdued this weekend, and when question by TJ13 over this, no comment was the firm reply.

Sniff Petrol suggest Kimi’s late arrival could be for other reasons…

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FIA releases engine usage list

This is up to and including India. Using more than 8 engines before the end the year will mean a 10 grid slot penalty for a driver.

Interestingly – all the Mercedes runners have used 8 engines to date.

Sebastian Vettel: 7

Mark Webber: 7
Fernando Alonso: 7
Felipe Massa: 7
Jenson Button: 8
Sergio Pérez: 8
Kimi Räikkönen: 7
Romain Grosjean: 7
Nico Rosberg: 8
Lewis Hamilton: 8
Nico Hülkenberg: 7
Esteban Gutiérrez: 7
Paul Di Resta: 8
Adrian Sutil: 8
Pastor Maldonado: 7
Valtteri Bottas: 7
Jean-Éric Vergne: 7
Daniel Ricciardo: 7
Charles Pic: 7
Giedo van der Garde: 7
Jules Bianchi: 7
Max Chilton: 7

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54 responses to “Daily #F1 News and Comment: Thursday October 31st 2013

  1. Yeah!
    Get rid of the gimmicks.
    Stop having front and rear wings.
    Rock hard tyres.
    Free engines – but a finite amount of joules to be used. If you want electric? Go ahead. Want solar panels? Ok!

    Then we have:
    More power than grip.
    Innovation which attracts engineers and companies (hello Google, hello Apple).

    Parts I’m not sure about:
    Suspension, should it be less restricted?
    Homologated survival cells?
    What to do about (blown) diffusers?

    • The blown diffusers will be a thing of the past next year. First of all it needs two exhaust pipes to work and there will only be one next year and it has to end further back, so you can’t use the exhaust gasses for anything else than making the air smelly for the guy behind you.

  2. Haven’t GCHQ got everybody’s shoe size? Along with ya mother’s maiden name and the name of ya pet hamster from when you were 5 lol.

    I like to put the words ‘bomb’ and ‘terrorist cell’ into text messages occasionally to see in a chopper turns up with SAS absailing from either side, or a couple of black 4×4 with mean with guns and stab vests, but alas they don’t seem to take me seriously……

    By the way, the name Bernie Ecclestone and the words common sense have never been said together in a serious light and probably never will. Senile old fart would be the most fitting lable to him these days.

    • Ooh CV, you did mention those dreaded words already in your comment…nice knowing you mate, will miss you 😉

      • Which words are those Macca78, was it the threat to national security or the way I described Bernie?
        Not sure who I’d be more afraid of if they were out to get me, MI6 or Eccles! Lol

  3. I disagree about the america part. F1 doesnt belong on ovals. An f1 circuit has to have more than 2 or 4 corners. What they need to do is go back to the originals. I really miss imola. I miss the days they had an extra engine for quali. 40 sets of rubber instead of 3.in those days f1 did what it supposed to do. Go faster than fast.

    • I think it would make a nice addition. Keeping it at one oval race, it wouldn’t really ‘pollute’ the ‘real circuit’ nature of F1, but Oval racing prefers drivers over cars, as it requires a lot of race intelligence and strategic positioning. And there would be a guaranteed fight for the lead as no car would be able to gain much advantage through cornering.
      There have been Oval races on the Eurospeedway in F3 cars and to say they were spectacular is an understatement. Else, as I’ve written, one could re-include the Indy 500 on the F1 calendar like in the olden days. I’d love to see Vettel, Alonso and Hamilton duke it out in identical Dallara’s at the biggest one-day race in the world.

      • Agreed.
        There’s a long history of F1 drivers having a crack at it. A serious annual F1 contingent could be mega.

        Might be a bit difficult to get all 22 drivers in on the act though…
        Pre-qualifying at the Eurospeedway ?

      • We all probably miss these days, but the grim reality is, that teams like Williams, Sauber, Force India, Lotus, let alone Caterham and marussia wouldn’t be there anymore. We’d be left with a handful of manufacturers and a 12 car grid.

        • I know. And I’m not saying I’m against the modern changes. I believe they are a big part of f1. And its one of the things i love about it. To see those masterminds come up with solutions to make a car go faster even though they get more restricted. But sometimes its fun to reminisce. I’m very into the fact of a new turbo era, but on this moment I dont believe if I take a new generation to the track they’ll have the same wow feeling I first had when it was all v12 and v10. I’m a bit against the limiting of the rpm. The sound of a f1 car is a bit defining of the spectacle that goes on on the tracks. They want to make f1 more attraktive but they take away stuff that makes it attraktive

  4. Harvey Poselthwaite, Tyrell’s chief designer was asked to lead a team to come up with how to improve F1 racing many years ago. iirc, the main ideas centered around reducing aero and increasing mechanical grip. Sounds common sense to me. No more vast sums spent in wind tunnels trying to get that last bit of airflow to add a gnat’s widge of downforce, or allegedly playing with engine maps to keep exhaust gasses flowing over the rear diffuser. Back to simple single element wings. Grip to come from tyres and suspension.

    Mr. Poselthwaite’s ideas were shelved.

  5. I used to own a non Niki Lauda version of the Spider.
    Now that was a proper car!
    But no seatbelts. So after I had it for 11 years, I sold it off, you can’t be lucky forever!

  6. From Dr Marko’s lips on Vettel-Ricciardo partnership in case any deluded person thought otherwise:

    “There is a good friendly relationship, and I think that will be good for the whole team that there is no tension any more and that the two drivers – at least as long as Sebastian is winning and Daniel is not beating him – I think their relationship will be very good.”

    The way I read it: “Daniel will be our no 2”

    • I just posted about this but didn’t see you had already mentioned it. That quote speaks volumes, it’s a shame for Daniel. I think given the ‘same’ car he could do well. It’s just Webber mk2!

    • To me it rather sounds like a not very flattering comment about Seb, along the lines that he couldn’t cope well with being beaten by Daniel.

        • Will we see the return of the petulant kid side of Vettel return. He hasn’t felt wat it is to loose the title by a couple of points, he was on the up in ’08 and ’09, then hit the top in ’10, there is only 1 way to go from the top I’m afraid. I like Seb but we only see him happy right now cos he not playing catch up. Will be interesting next season on soooooooooo many levels.

          • Well, it will be interesting as long as Renault do not outdo Merc and Ferrari, because if they do, coupled with Newey’s designs…time to go to bed…!

  7. Off topic a little, but have you seen the extracts from the interview Marko did for the BBC? There is a quote that struck a cord with me where he says the “relationship between Vettel and Ricciardo will be fine as ling as Vettel is beating him” WFT so it’s a foregone conclusion the poor Daniel is second fiddle and will just go through the motions to pick up the extra points for constructors title. What a shame, Ricciardo must be gutted to read that. We all know Marko has Horner in his pocket.

    • I had visions of a RB9 flying over the edge of the helipad … Wonder what the FIA says about running this year’s car on a helipad with Pirelli tyres… surely they must have learnt something there 😛

  8. A thought on Gary Anderson’s idea about the tea tray.
    Maybe the tray requires a difference in air pressure to deform it when heated? Not sure if this is what was tested, I would have doubted the effect could be seen when stationary; considering what it’s attached to.

  9. A few hours ago Crofty tweeted that Maldonado to Lotus is a signed deal. But I’m not sure how reliable he / his source / his story is.

    Adam Cooper published an interview of Maldonado a few minutes ago in which Pastor says, “The decision will be down to me, so I prefer to take some more time. I really hope to have a decision before the end of the season.”

    Cooper mentions Sauber and Lotus are both luring him for his PDVSA money.

    • Yeah. Funny I got that rumour to Crofty and he clearly believes it… As did Brundle over the hulk.. 😉

      Why don’t these people have proper sources….

        • Maldonado is seriously being considered by Lotus, if not favoured more than the hulk by the Genii management. Boullier, prefers the Hulk. however I recommend Lotus check the colour of his money first.

          • Ahhh. But the colour of WHOSE money Judge? The Genii outfit is showing signs of sever financial stress, so the colour chart has to swing both ways? (This is getting more comical by the minute.)

    • Today is a special day… not because it’s all hallow’s eve, nor because it’s the Thursday of the Abu Dhabi GP.

      Today is special because Hulkenberg wanted Lotus to show him by the end of October that they had the budget to be competitive next year. And there is much silence on that story today. It appears that Lotus will lose not one top driver (Kimi), but now two top drivers due to their impoverished budget for 2014.

      What will happen next? The seats available for Hulkenberg theoretically include the following:
      – Lotus (but bring big dollars because they will be poor)
      – Sauber (not sure if it’s an option, but may need to bring big dollars, as rubles apparently move slowly)
      – Force India (they claim to employ the fastest available drivers, money not required)
      – McLaren (Some indicators they will keep Perez, but they could surprise)
      – Williams (they may be improved next season, but very slow now…)
      – Marussia & Caterham (I don’t want to talk about these options!)

      Normally, the driver market is driven by the most valuable player available. Does this mean that we will see an announcement first from Hulkenberg, then Maldonado?

      Or is Pastor now more valuable than Hulkenberg because of the PDVSA bag of millions?

      • As the good Judge has reminded, it may be, or is likely that the PDVSA is not yet liberated legally from Team Williams. So Pastor would then be just another fast driver with not much money on the F1 driver market.

        Would that make Chilton more attractive to some teams than Maldonado?

        And what can Magnussen bring to this party?

          • I’ve seen those, but my investigations so far suggests its either locked down very tight – and then how would these stories be out there – or there is no story at all.

            Just my impressions at the mo….

  10. Do you think McLaren can get one of their boys into the Force India seat of DiResta? Magnussen or Stoffel are talked up quite a bit by them and FI would love to get a sponsored fast driver.

  11. …”Alonso retorted, “It was perfect, it’s perfect and it will be perfect”. Its a shame the questioner didn’t press Alonso further.”

    I question the premise that lives here, that the Alonso / Ferrari relationship is broken. Domenicali and Alonso have been consistent in their statements since the summer ear-tweaking that the relationship continues to be a strong working relationship, (as seen yet again today).

    The proof that is presented here is a rather subtle reading of some tea-leaves. OK, perhaps some folks on the team call Alonso disrespectful names behind his back. It’s a huge team, and that’s not surprising that some folks are disrespectful to others behind their backs. That is human nature and can be found in many workplaces of a substantial size.

    The subtle reading of press releases does not show a relationship that is broken, as has been characterized here. Yes, I agree, if one squints one’s eyes hard enough, we can all certainly see the view as presented here. But there is much evidence that contradicts that view, that shows they’re united and plan to stay united.

    And I’ll counter my own argument, and say that you may well be correct, in that LdM may be working to move Alonso out of the team behind the scenes. But if that is true, the evidence that has been presented here is not convincing in the face of much clear evidence to the contrary.

    It’s not clear to me what the advantage is to the Ferrari team to have Alonso leave. F1 is so extremely competitive these days that performance is an over-riding reason for driver decisions at top-tier teams.

    I say this, in part because I’m sure I’m not the only one to think this way. But also for another reason. I see also that there are others in the paddock who believe that the relationship between Alonso and Ferrari is broken behind the scenes. So it’s not as if TJ13 is alone here. But I wonder if folks are being manipulated, to create rumors that have no basis in fact, to further a particular agenda.

    I say all of this with sincerity and warm regards for a wonderfully fun site! 🙂

    • I think they both want out. Neither wants to be seen to be the first mover here. But a marriage of (in)convenience also suits both parties. Mainly due to money, or specifically penalties in contracts.

      Fernando gets paid a heap of money, and gets to learn next years car before going to McLaren in 14. Driving for Ferrari brings its own financial rewards also, by association.

      Ferrari get a great driver, can measure Kimis performance level and can let him in after the 2014 season, he it suits them to. They might also be able to get Seb at this point.

      The most desperate party here is McLaren.

    • With respect – your reasoning is nonsensical and this is not tea leaf reading – its bloody obvious.

      Why did Ferrari.com go out of their way to state Alonso was ‘under the watchful eye of team boss Stefano Domenical’??? in the last couple of weeks.

      Who knows what the motive is – maybe they don’t want him out – but want a chastened and more supplicant Fernando…..

      • “…maybe they don’t want him out – but want a chastened and more supplicant Fernando…”

        Good point, and that would make sense.

  12. Any chance of hulk going to Williams? They ain’t exactly been flush, so they might need a pay driver, but the idea of bottas, the hulk, new merc engines, pat symonds… Would be a quite tasty.

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