#TJ13 #F1 Sidebar – This is what F1 qualifying should be


So the FIA and Bernie finally see what happens when the teams get their act together and actually agree on something, a taste of future power perhaps? The net result is, we’re back the the old qualifying system for China for now at least.

In the meantime, Charlie and the TJ13 crew give their thoughts as to what system of quali they’d want to see. Don’t forget to subscribe to TJ13tv for future episodes not always featured here.

Who’s right? If none of them make any sense at all, comment your suggestion.

12 responses to “#TJ13 #F1 Sidebar – This is what F1 qualifying should be

  1. I like Craig, and I notice more often than not, I’m either agreeing with him, and/or learning from him. I’d agree with him here, except I’m a fan of the 2015 system … so you guys are all wrong! :-p

    But good job! Quite fun these little things.

  2. I can’t decide which way to vote, how can we expect the poor strategy group to decide 🙂

    The soul searching starts with deciding if we want entertainment or a contest of speed. To be honest i never cared if qualy was ‘boring’, from a purist perspective I liked the old 2 day snoozefest, the fastest guy was always on pole. why be upset with that?
    But if there is a consensus (awful word that, but 😀 ) that the sport needs to be more entertaining, then it could do far worse than look at what Formula E has done. I have to say I think Formula E has done a good job of putting on a show, so have to agree with Matt on the grounds that it would tick the boxes of having cars on the track and delivering the mixed up grids that’ll liven up our Sundays. Your slick presentation won my vote Matt 🙂

  3. It’s a shame the reaction was so severe because the elimination idea has potential. The real fall down was sticking with 3 separate session. If it was over an hour it could get very interesting. To keep cars on track you could have started on the slowest tyres and unlock faster tyres through the session. I’m not saying that’s the solution but there are other good solutions if we don’t react like someone just punched our mums.

    • Elimination certainly ensures cars on track. Personally I like it but lots don’t seem to. I’d like to see more than one car going out so eliminations happen less often – I feel that would put the teams more on edge and more likely to put a time in. Also, I feel once you’ve got down to a certain number of cars elimination stops working so it would be better to move to one-at-a-time runs to keep cars on track. Maybe even send cars out at 30 second intervals, three timed laps, average of the best two gives grid position. Fastest up to that point goes last so you keep excitement going to the end.

      Maybe the most radical solution would be to only allow the more durable compounds – in the past we got more action when the tyres didn’t peak so much, or when they could use lots of sets. Headline times would be higher but there would be more action.

  4. The whole purpose of the new qualifying saga was to try to disrupt the starting grids to create better racing.
    Credit goes to Jean Totd for convincing Bernie to back down, Totd is a man that knows when a battle cannot be won/when a battle is lost, the signal was a message on FERRARI twitter account which read “unity is the only way to overcome difficulties”.

  5. My qualifying preference is something like so:

    Each driver allocated a random position at each race weekend. The number given defines when a driver will run in qualifying. The Qualifying session is a straight 1 lap affair. One week you could get lucky and be the last to run on a nicely rubbered in track, the next week you could be first to run on a track that hasn’t yet dried properly. Tyres wise, everyone has a choice of three compounds (as is today). You start the race on the tyres you ran your single lap qualifying on. Cars run with enough fuel to do 3 laps.

    F1 has sanitised many tracks, meaning in race conditions errors aren’t anywhere near as heavily punished as they used to be. That pisses me off. Lets see them punished in qualifying. I’ve no interest in seeing drivers who proclaim to be the best on the planet taking multiple attempts to nail a single lap. That’s like giving football free takers multiple attempts to hit that perfect free kick. The talent rewarded in qualifying should be being able to put in an incredibly quick lap without having to slowly build up to it. I loathed these omissions in the knockout system, Q1/2/3 system and the hour session for the above reasons. This system also guarantees an equal amount of air time for each car in qualifying perhaps aiding some of the smaller teams in terms of sponsorship.

    • This is what I really like. Don’t artificially mix up the grid like everyone is trying to do. Give everyone a fair chance but allow them to be punished for mistakes. It is fair, so noone feels cheated, but the grid can still be mixed up. I feel that the rubbering issue could be fixed too by making it two laps. You pick a random order, and everyone does one lap. Then everyone does one lap again in reverse order from previously. So the one that had their first lap on a fresh track gets one lap on a nice track, so they technically have the best chance, but they also have one chance because their first one likey wont count. While the others have more chances in the middle but less overall. it’s fair!

  6. These sidebars are a great idea. Good to see they’re a regular feature of the site.

    Catman getting a haircut during his bit was mildly disconcerting. 😉 Perhaps it’s just me.

    Craig +1.

    Matt, you’re correct… it’s the hair!

  7. I like the vibes at this site a lot, the spirit which kept me here is totally back!

    Now an ugly scope turning out to be right would be awesome. Something like ‘Fernando of to DTM – AND JENSON TO FORMULA E!!!!1!!’

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