Brought to you by TheJudge13 contributor Mattpt55
The second half of the season swung into gear with Red Bull opting for shorter gears in order to hopefully make up for some of their lack of power from the feckless Renault PU. A nice long interview with Jos “the Boss” on Sky pre-Quali as the topic of young Verstappen dominated even the impending Mercedes fratricide. With air temps of just 9◦C conditions were bound to be tricky, especially as the caprice of the Weather Gods made itself known by bucketing down rain 45 minutes before the start and yet lapis skies greeted the start of the session.
No matter as Spa delivered its famously changeable weather, without much effect sad to say. The biggest excitement was Bianchi’s move into Q2 (possibly to Ferrari as well if he continues his run of form) and the inevitable duel of the teammates the only real unknown going into Q3. Rosberg continued his dominance of pole position with his 4th in a row as Hamilton struggled in Q3 with tetchy brakes. Haters will call it nerves but his car never looked settled in Q3 the way it did in Q2, depriving true fans of the nail biting spectacle they all craved. Fortunately, to make up for it, Vettel surprised Ricciardo by taking 3rd, as the Colgate Kid decided to go rally crossing on his final effort, easily costing him that spot. With tomorrow’s predicted dry race there will be plenty of room for argument as the points await tomorrow’s checkers.
Q1
Marussia made the early start followed by Caterham and Toro Rosso as the backmarkers hoped to take advantage of the weather and sneak into Q2 in the event the rain worsened. With long laps made even longer by the wet, no times were posted as the rest of the field began to circulate. Early efforts were in the 2:14’s as the big decision was between wets and inters. Earlier runners including Bottas, Raikkonen, Alonso, Kvyat, Sutil and Gutierrez opted for wets whilst Hamilton, for one, chose to go with the inters. After the outlap it became increasingly clear that inters were the choice and Kvyat showed the entertainment available to the drivers with the new Power Units as he spun the tyre in each gear as he accelerated into his first timed lap, wiggling the rear end of the car like a drunken Nicki Minaj.
The first times rolled in around the 13 minute mark with Kvyat’s 2:14 eclipsed by Vergne’s 2:13 as the soon to be ex-Toro Rosso driver continued to demonstrate his wet weather prowess. Massa had an off in replay at Les Combes and Ricciardo went to the top by jumping into the 2:10’s. Not for long as Hamilton, despite missing the Bus Stop entirely, still went into the 2:09’s to take the early lead. Going round for another go, he cleaned up his mistake and was into the 2:07’s followed by Rosberg.
Halfway through and Sutil, Grosjean, Chilton, Raikkonen, Ericsson, and Lotterer languished at the bottom as Gutierrez parked up his Sauber at Stavelot, giving at least one of the backmarkers a chance to escape Q1. Raikkonen wasted no time having another go and Vettel improved his lot to 3rd as the clock crossed the 7 minutes to go mark. Raikkonen came P5 to put himself temporarily out of danger as Kvyat attempted to get himself out of 16th with Bottas lighting up the track through Sector 1.
Kvyat made it across the line in 8th with 3:30 left and the times started to come thick and fast as Spa’s unpredictable weather caused a few grey hairs on the pit wall. Maldonado encountered trouble as Massa managed a 3rd that all but guaranteed his advancement. Hamilton, not content to sit on his laurels, went round for another go and Bianchi pulled off a P10 that very much made him the beneficiary of Gutierrez early exit.
With 1:30 to go rain began again and it was Maldonado going for a quick spin in the Chicane thus spoiling Vettel’s lap but fortuitously leaving him enough time for one more try. Sutil fell into 17th as desperation gripped the back end of the field and the struggle to advance entered its final phase. Rosberg came through, finally displacing Hamilton atop the field, but the real action was at the back as Sutil and Magnussen were in 15th and 16th respectively.
In quick succession they came across the line after the checkers fell and it was Hulkenberg losing the battle with cold brakes as the others managed to get through. Maldonado, Hulkenberg, Chilton, Gutierrez, Lotterer and Ericsson occupied the back end of the grid at session’s end, going no further. Lotterer, who at one point was well outside the 107% rule, wound up besting Ericsson by over a second, raising real questions about how much longer the new owners of Caterham might be willing to keep him on, despite his cash.
Q2
Thoroughly raining at the start of the session with DRS disabled and Grosjean was out first, making his way round a lonely looking track. He was quickly followed as the weather showed no immediate signs of improving and the desire for bankers was great as the only question was would the drops get bigger or smaller.
Early times were Grosjean 2:13 followed by Sutil in a 2:11, Button in 2:09 and then Bottas in 2:08 neatly showing the stratification of the field with 9 minutes to go. Hamilton, Rosberg and Alonso all booted their first laps and were forced to go round for a second time in order to post a time with 9 minutes left.
After an agonizing wait, finally they came through and it was Hamilton with the advantage in a 2:07, nearly a second up on Rosberg. In replay, it was clear he caught the back of the kerbs at Eau Rouge and very nearly lost the car after quite the fun little moment. Raikkonen leaped into 5th and Vettel 4th. Rosberg continued to have a tough time of it in Rivage but still managed to improve, staying P2. Kvyat, Perez, Sutil, Grosjean and Bianchi were all at the back as Magnussen hung round in 10th and Vergne had yet to set a time.
With 4 minutes to go, Vergne finally set a time, but it was only good for 12th. Needing to do better, he kept the fires lit for another turn. Kvyat came through with a minute to go and shoved Magnussen firmly off the cliff and put Button into danger with Sutil unable to improve.
As the checkers fell, Hamilton was into the 2:06’s and it was Magnussen’s turn to shove Button off. Rosberg failed to best Hamilton as Lewis looked increasingly untouchable in these conditions. Vettel was on edge as Ricciardo came through, confirming 8th. Vergne came 12th, as Button went P9 putting Vettel out and Kvyat into 10th. Long moments in the Red Bull garage as the wait for Vettel’s lap slowed time to a crawl. He came through in 7th, doing in Kvyat’s chances and leaving only Perez on track to finish a thoroughly uninspired 13th.
Kvyat, Vergne, Perez, Sutil, Grosjean, Bianchi hung up their gloves as the top 10 got themselves sorted for one last effort.
Q3
Clearing skies, but the rain had failed to make much of an impression on the results thus far, though not sure about the drivers tidies however.
Vettel was lined up and waiting for at least a minute before the pit exit opened. Just as the light turned green, Hamilton came roaring up behind him, just ahead of his teammate. Meanwhile, Ricciardo’s mechanics were just tidying up his car as Sebastian was getting on with it. It was only a brief delay and Ricciardo joined the rest of the field as long laps left little time to play.
With only 8 minutes left Vettel crossed the line followed by Hamilton, who immediately went wide at La Source, handing Rosberg a big advantage. As the lap progressed, it was clear he had decided to save tyres for a second go and with no surprise, Rosberg took P1 2:05 to Vettel’s 2:08. Alonso slotted in behind Vettel, Massa behind Alonso as the rest of the field completed their first effort, with Ricciardo in 5th followed by Button and Magnussen.
With time short, Hamilton came through for the second time and managed to get his P2, but the car looked to be a real handful compared to Q2. As the rest of the field circulated on their out lap having stopped for new tyres, Hamilton had to push to get through his stop and make it back across start finish for one last try. It wasn’t to be, as yet again he struggled with the first turn. Still he was up on Rosberg’s time through Sector 1, but he gradually hemorrhaged time through Sector 2 and was unable to improve on Rosberg’s initial mark, a fact he attributed to glazing on one of his front brakes, possibly the front right as it featured in a radio call from Bonnington after his first try went sideways. Behind the Mercedes pair, which still were easily a second ahead, it was Vettel best of the rest, slinging his car through the turns with a masterful display of wringing every last bit of time out of a lap. Alonso came behind Vettel and it was Ricciardo with it all to prove as time expired but this time it didn’t work out as he had a massive off at Stavelot which consigned him to 5th, followed by Bottas. Magnussen, Raikkonen, Massa and Button occupied P7-10.
The fact that Quali was wet opens up the possibility of interesting tyre strategies for the top 10, but it will be the race to La Source that occupies everyone’s attention tomorrow as points are finally on offer after the long summer’s break.
Qualifying Results:
# | Driver | Ctry | Team |
1 | Nico Rosberg | ![]() |
Mercedes |
2 | Lewis Hamilton | ![]() |
Mercedes |
3 | Sebastian Vettel | ![]() |
Red Bull |
4 | Fernando Alonso | ![]() |
Ferrari |
5 | Daniel Ricciardo | ![]() |
Red Bull |
6 | Valtteri Bottas | ![]() |
Williams |
7 | Kevin Magnussen | ![]() |
McLaren |
8 | Kimi Raikkonen | ![]() |
Ferrari |
9 | Felipe Massa | ![]() |
Williams |
10 | Jenson Button | ![]() |
McLaren |
11 | Daniil Kvyat | ![]() |
Toro Rosso |
12 | Jean-Eric Vergne | ![]() |
Toro Rosso |
13 | Sergio Perez | ![]() |
Force India |
14 | Adrian Sutil | ![]() |
Sauber |
15 | Romain Grosjean | ![]() |
Lotus |
16 | Jules Bianchi | ![]() |
Marussia |
17 | Pastor Maldonado | ![]() |
Lotus |
18 | Nico Hulkenberg | ![]() |
Force India |
19 | Max Chilton | ![]() |
Marussia |
20 | Esteban Gutierrez | ![]() |
Sauber |
21 | Andre Lotterer | ![]() |
Caterham |
22 | Marcus Ericsson | ![]() |
Caterham |
Thanks Matt. The story of of the session is Bianchi. Really shows up Chilton. Imagine if Marrusia had two drivers who deserved to be in F1.
The same applies to Lotterer and Ericsson. If I were Ericsson I would have retired from racing immediately, what an embaressment.
Yeah, no real excuse for Ericsson. Except, money, of course. Lots and lots of it.
I don’t know:
– rain
– lotterer having new parts
– Ericsson having a bad day…I know you’re not supposed to but it can happen.
– car doesn’t suit Ericsson (a la Vettel, Raikkonen)
It looks like lotterer is the man though. @TJ any rumours/thoughts?
I don’t think it will be a long term arrangement… Andre is a class act though….
Also not sure JS American led consortium is correct…. More likely a Chilton Snr led consortium… to buy Marrusia….
Apparently Ericsson had a problem, engine or brakes (forget). But it’s strange how he’s gone backwards from the natural talent he was originally (UK F. BMW, Japan F3 champ), since testing the Brawn GP car in late 2009.
I wonder if his weight is still hampering him in the Caterham. If so.. maybe Frijns was a better bet for this year performance wise, with Ericsson getting the call next year. But, an impressive debut by Lotterer!
Interesting intra-team battles:
Cogate Boy vs Das Finger: +0.2sec (but if you account for Smiley’s massive rally cross moment, I would estimate it at around -1sec)
Fred vs Kimi: -1sec
Valtteri vs Felipe: -1sec
KMag vs Jense: -1sec
Lotterer vs Ericsson: -1sec
All fun to watch.. 🙂
Yes indeed, from the very first race for the most part that’s how the season has fallen.
Wait-a-minute you are seriously claiming that Ricciardo was a second faster than Vettel? You should lay off the chicken!
I am claiming that Ricciardo had a massive, uncharacteristic moment around Blanchimont (if memory serves me well) that must have cost him big time in laptime. My first reaction when seeing his final time was: how could he be faster that Bottas (and even Magnussen!) given his high-speed off? So yeah, I would infer that Smiley was (significantly) faster than Der Finger, in the whereabouts of 0.5-1 sec.
Of course we will never know, and this is pure supposition..
What is Das Finger in Dutch? We’ll need to learn it by the time Verstappen gets up to the sharp end..
First of all – it’s Der Finger. 😉
De vinger
And basically, Mercedes is 2 seconds faster than the rest of the grid.
As far as we know. 🙂 It might be even more….
I suppose that in Q3 the Mercedes go at 100% of their potential, considering the two drivers are fighting. It may also be that the team is equally restricting both cars.
2 seconds faster on a wet track.. It probably would have been more on dry. 1-2 should is guaranteed for Mercedes drivers unless they fight each other so hard that one of the cars breaks.
As ever, brilliant write up matt. Thank you
Thanks bruznic. It’s challenging but fun.
Shouldn’t you be taking your wife out for an all day anniversary celebration? What the hell are you doing on here talking to us petrol heads?….😂😂😂😂
LOL, fortunately we’re a few hours earlier over here. Besides, I distracted her with a really nice bottle of white.
Great article Matt 🙂
So again when it really matters, Hamilton fails to deliver the pole lap somehow. So much for “beating Rosberg at his best”, at the moment he just doesn’t do it. Plus, I expect team orders will be in full force tomorrow one way or another. I don’t necessarily like Rosberg but you’ve got to admire his machine-like consistency.
Hamilton had brake problems. Those that don’t like him will see it as another excuse, his fans will lament yet another unlucky session, while those objective observers will just accept that he had brake problems and will wait with anticipation tomorrow’s race.
The question is – why does he have ‘brake problems’ constantly.
Either sabotage or Hamilton need to lay off the trailbraking/braking later than late. If its the latter (most likely), I’m a little dissapointed Hamilton hasn’t tried to work around all those brake issues.
Hulkenberg (and Perez) were having brake problems, apparently Hulk’s race engineer told Hulk to go on the brakes earlier and smoother, but didn’t follow his advice. The same for Hamilton?
This was on Ted Qualy Notebook, by the way.
Speaking of Ted’s Notebook – Mr Sniff Petrol was on it! So cool!
Depends, if they’re telling him not to and he is then deffo his issue. OTOH if they’re not then the equipment needs some work.
And that is the question Mr Hippo… You’ve got to start looking at the driver here don’t you…
Or at the head technical engineer, our dearest Leprechaun. Rosberg too had brake problems in Hungary..
Maybe Brembo needs to step up their game?
Or not.. 🙂
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115537
Mercedes F1 team reveals Hamilton German GP brake failure findings
“First of all, both parties can now confirm that the quality of the disc material was not a contributory factor,” said a statement issued by the team.
“Instead, extensive analysis and experimentation has demonstrated that the specific interaction between the structure of the brake material in question and the brake mounting on the F1 W05 Hybrid was at the root of the failure.
“Countermeasures have already been applied to both the disc geometry and the mounting to ensure there can be no repeat of the failure.”
So the Leprechaun knows not how to mount a brake disc. The Leprechaun inherited the fastest car on the grid, but seemingly Saint Ross left no instructions on how to stop the car. What a shame..
Now I’ll go back to my underground Phil Arnaboldi theories:
http://thejudge13.com/2014/04/29/daily-f1-news-and-comment-29th-april-2014/#Mercedes loses another important team member from the design group
Did you watch the qually? The Hamfosi patiently await your apology
Has Hamilton brembo’s now?
No CI
Official brembo and mercedes statement.
‘These developments allow the team to once again run Brembo brake disc material, should it choose to do so, in race conditions.
2 seconds ahead:
on a wet track power is not the real decider, so obviously Mercedes has something in their car, what all others don´t have.
From my point of view it´s time to restart the traction control discussion!
Has lewis had these many brake complaints in McLaren?
Also what happened to Kimi?