118 responses to “Daily #F1 News and Comment: Tuesday 1st July 2014”

1. Niki is right. People want to see overtaking. But 7 out of 10 times (not an actual proven future, just a matter of speach) they get an “under investigation” slapped on their Ass. Softy fia

2. “Many Formula One fans take umbrage at any suggestion that Flavio Briatore makes”

   A Freudian slip? Should that be Niki Lauda there?

3. Judge, just a thought about those examples you gave, a disparity in car performance allowed this, Lewis may have the quickest car, trouble the other guys car is just as quick, and no one else is quick enough to get between them.

   • The way I see it is Rosberg has finished 2 races more than Hamilton yet is only one race ahead, points wise. This suggests parity, with regards to results. All other adjectives, clever, fast, etc simply reflect the biases of the observers.

     If we are fortunate, Rosberg will encounter a DNF and we will be treated to a full on nail biting contest between the two, with no end until the final race of the season, but statistically speaking it’s just as likely to be Lewis if we are assuming a team issue, rather than a driving one.

     • …but if Lewis begins to overdrive, then he may be more likely to contribute to a failure/error – as you said – fascinating….

       • One question, define overdrive?

         • …it’s a term frequently used by F1 driver analysts. The simplest definition would be ‘to drive beyond their normal parameters’…. though we could get much more complex than that if we chew the cud long enough…

         • And this would lead to drivers continually making error after error. But how often have we seen Lewis doing that this season? (Not that I’m saying you said he did)

         • You’ve missed the words ‘begins to’… That suggests he hasn’t been doing so far, or has only just started to.

           You could argue that Austria was over-driving, going off track on one lap and locking the brakes on another.

           Canada is open to question but what seems likely is that his driving style had an effect there on which car finished and which didn’t…

         • Let me put it this way. According to many (and I agree), Alonso and Lewis are the only drivers that can outperform their car, that they achieve by overdriving and being 100% focused. Problem is that sometimes, due to emotional pressure or whatever, you can just lose that focus for a split second and you’re off. That’s what happened with Lewis in 2011.
           As a side note, some will say that arguing a driver can ourperform their car is stupid, well…everything’s objective and a figure of speech.

         • “Alonso and Lewis are the only drivers that can outperform their car”

           One of the worst cliche’s in motorsport. No driver can outperform the design parameters of the car. What a driver can do is outperform a team-mate, but that’s very different from outperforming their car.

         • …and you obviously chose to omit the second paragraph stating exactly what you say! You just wanted to make that point!

         • You claim Alonso and Hamilton can outperform their car. Cite an example where that has happened. And an example isn’t merely beating a team-mate but where the driver exceeded the cars design parameter.

         • OK, I’ll play but only if you accept that outdriving the car simply means extracting more performance from the car than was thought possible.

           As an example I will cite your all time favorite driver, Lewis Hamilton, and his pole lap in Spa, 2013. Mixed conditions and he managed to beat Vettel by almost a tenth, Webber by more and his teammate by over a second. This despite the fact that the Red Bull had massively superior DF and a Renault engine that was the class of the V8’s.

           Only the most obtusely pedantic would refuse to accept that Hamilton “outdrove” the car in its colloquial meaning.

           Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go see if the US can upset Belgium (sorry bruznic).

         • It is just a figure of speech by commentators and ex-drivers to show that a driver has really overperformed and achieved more than what the majority of people were expecting, including the team itself based on simulations etc. Noone can outperform the car’s technical capabilities, but can take the car to such limits that the team didn’t see before or thought possible. Senna was such an example and Alonso’s 2012 year could be described as such.

           But on the other hand, if you look at it from a ‘cold’ engineering point of view, it simply was that the 2012 car was designed around Alonso, it was more ‘torquey’ at the start of GPs gaining him places, and its qualifying pace was not a true reflection of its ranking compared to other cars.

           I merely mentioned two opposing opinions.

         • … I think I said ‘overdrive’ the car… which is indeed possible…

         • Alonso once claimed he added six tenths to a car’s performance:
           http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/61742
           “That is always very clear in any team, you know, to have equal opportunities to everybody and to have an equal car to your teammate,” Alonso said on BBC Radio. “What I think sometimes, and what I asked the team, is that I gave the team a lot.

           “When I arrived in December, I remember the car I drove; I remember the results they had in 2006. And now, you know, I brought to the team half a second, six tenths, whatever, and I don’t see anything giving me back.

           “So that’s the only thing.”

         • In English it is called a colloquialism. Saying they get more out of the car just means that some drivers are able to keep a car closer to the limit of grip. But of course you knew that already and just had a point to make.

         • A most erudite contribution for one whose ‘handle’ is supremely concise….

4. “Hamilton is faster but I don’t think he is cleverer than Rosberg,” said Walker.”

   So now that nico has finished ahead of him in the last 3 races, he’s more clever than Lewis? So where was that in the 4 previous races? Where was his cleverness in Bahrain and Spain? Both drivers have made errors at crucial time over a race weekend so far, so let’s not make it look like it’s only happening on one side of the garage.

   You don’t become a WDC, multiple race and pole winner by just being fast. I like and respect Murray, but sometimes I think they look at Lewis as being dumb as a doorpost.

5. I love to see people talking about Hamilton smiling after seeing Rosberg´s telemetry. They were three Marshalls on Monaco with a lot better information than Hamilton (One of those Marshalls is british) and they come out with the same opinion.

   We just need to see the videos, Hamilton had not yet dropped the car and he already thought that Rosberg had done it on purpose. He had tried and found guilty his teammate without having seen a single piece of data long before out of the car.

   • While I don’t disagree with the stewards’ verdict (though I tend to ‘not proven’ rather than ‘innocent’), one ought to bear in mind that Hamilton has rather more insight than they into what the Mercedes is and isn’t capable of.

     • Not to forget: the stewards’ decision wasn’t unanimous at the time. And that it’s still not quite explained why Rosberg’s steering inputs were proactive rather than reactive immediately prior to his off. (My opinion: it still smells fishy from a mile off.)

       From what I’ve seen the stewards failed to find 100% irrefutable evidence that it was cheating, so (with the seriousness of the consequences in mind) decided to take the safe course and declare Rosberg “not guilty”. However, bear in mind that lack of evidence for cheating is NOT the same as evidence for innocence (Statistics 101). As it happens most judges most everywhere are in the unfortunate position where they can’t declare anyone “innocent”, but have have to resort to a convoluted “not enough evidence was presented to find John Doe guilty”, hence “not guilty”. The fact that the stewards found Rosberg not guilty at the time doesn’t prove much, if anything.

       • “However, bear in mind that lack of evidence for cheating is NOT the same as evidence for innocence”

         Thats the biggest bullshit I ever see in my life. A person is innocent until proven otherwise.

         Hamilton fans you just need a smile of his idol to write in stone that Rosberg is guilty. That is the modus operandi of a hardcore fan.

   • @Rambo, we also don’t know what he was told by his race engineer. Which would have been potentially influenced his response significantly.

     • The FIA has full access to all the radio conversations and there is no doubt the FIA took a look into that information.

6. I’d love to be fly on the wall in the depths of the Mercedes motor home, where I’m sure Lauda, Lowe and Wolff have ‘heated’ exchanges over team orders.

   I think it’s fair that the minute the constructors is sewn up for Mercedes and they are out of reach from the rest then driver can fight tooth and nail for the WDC.

7. WEATHER

   –

   Forecast Summary BBC

   Outlook for Thursday to Saturday

   Dry with good sunny spells on Thursday, turning cloudier through Friday.

   Saturday rain, perhaps locally heavy, slowly clearing away southeastwards.

   Warm initially, then temperatures nearer to normal

   –

   Could make quali interesting …..

   • Interesting-er you mean, LOL

8. “Then again, maybe Kimi does recognise the power behind the throne and is trying to appease it to save his job.”

   No, RAI is honest as always. The same was said by Ecclestone.
   “What about Mattiacci?”
   “Well … I would say good. When Luciano Benetton decided to enter F1 advised him to take a good manager. He chose Briatore who knew nothing but had opened many Benetton stores in America. Flavio came to the GP, I realized he was a guy who was a fast learner, I gave him a hand and managed in the short to choose the right people. Mattiacci also gave me the feeling of someone who learn quickly”

   There are several issues in Ferrari team. But the most important is a power struggle between LdM and Mattiacci. Whose vision will prevail? An old one – everything built around needs of ALO or Mattiacci’s new approach. Because the red team is owned by Fernando, so they wait for his decision about where to drive in 2015. And it is a though one, cause Maclaren doesn’t look fine right now. So, will Mr Mattiacci have cojones to change Ferrari philosophy and make decision instead of Alonso?

   • It’s not really LdM versus Mattiacci, it’s more likely to be LdM versus FIAT. 90% of Ferrari is owned by FIAT and Mattiacci seems to have been their choice. But how far can FIAT push Ferrari given that the latter is their most profitable business?

     • And whoes man is Mattiacci – Fiat’s, thus this is LdM vs Mattiacci.

9. Re. ” …. Vettel was over 40 points behind when he was chasing down Alonso’s championship lead in 2012. Alonso, similarly, left Silverstone in 2010 with a 47 point deficit and started the final race of the season with a points advantage. If you go back further, Raikkonen was 17 points behind Hamilton with two races remaining in 2007, yet won the title when a win only paid out 10 points. … ”

   Completely fatuous to compare above drivers. Lewis and Nico are in the same machinery. Perhaps, arguably, Lewis may have a tenth or two advantage per lap over Nico in terms of raw ability/speed but Nico has shown that he can counter that easily over the full race distance by being a less “emotional” and more “thinking” driver.

   If they enjoy equal luck/reliability in remaining 11 races and Mercedes finish 1st and 2nd in all races; then to win the championship with current Nico advantage of 29 points:

   Lewis needs 8 wins and be 2nd in 3 races (net Lewis gain 35 points)
   whereas
   Nico needs just 4 wins and be 2nd in 7 races (net Lewis gain 21 points).

   …. Unless I have miscalculated …. !

   • “…. Unless I have miscalculated …. ”

     Yes I have.

     The last race is worth 50 points for 1st and 36 points for 2nd; i.e. a 14 point difference between 1st and 2nd.
     So excluding Abu Dhabi finale,

     if Nico wins 4 of 10 races, and is 2nd in 6 races with Lewis winning 6 of 10 races and 2nd in 4 races, then going in to finale Nico will still have a 15 points advantage.

     So in the final race he can still afford to come 2nd to Lewis and win the world championship by one point.

     • It is a poor turn of phrase, no doubt, but what is really meant is that the drivers extract more performance under sub optimal conditions than anyone else.

       Just doesn’t ring as well as outdriving the car, LOL.

     • @PK in races where both have finished, Hamilton has won 4 races to Rosberg’s 2.

       Thus we can expect going into Interlagos that Rosberg will have 348 and Hamilton 340 if the current ratio holds and neither suffers a DNF, which is looking less and less likely TBH.

       In that scenario Hamilton would have to run the table in order to win the WDC or else Rosberg would need to finish 3rd in one of the last 2 races..

       Of course a lot can happen over the next 11 races, I just hope it’s close enough to make the last race matter. 🙂

   • Whilst your assessment maybe true to some extent, it’s still subjective with respect to being “emotional and more thinking driver”

     Lewis has demonstrated that he’s a thinking driver in both scenarios, whilst leading (Malaysia and China) and trailling (Bahrain and Spain).

     Sometimes I feel he doesn’t get the credit he deserves, because all you hear is that “he’s fast” and that’s all he’s got to offer. But he has shown on numerous occasions that he’s able to comfortably manage races. Sure he has made mistakes, but who hasn’t.

     • Forgot to proof read before posting. This should’ve read…

       “Lewis has demonstrated that he’s a thinking driver”

     • There’s no denying though that Nico has used his noggin to haul back Lewis mentally…. at most of the recent tracks Lewis was faster, but, for whatever reason, the momentum (and points) have swung in Nico’s favour. E.g. Lewis should have been on pole in Austria and had an easy walk to victory.

       By Monaco, Lewis had taken the lead with 4 wins in a row, despite a retirement… it already looked like Lewis’ to lose at that point. Lewis needs to clear his head and do the same now at Silverstone, Hungary etc. and close back in/take the lead again. Singapore they should both be strong at.

   • I think the point being made is that 29 points is just over a race victory. To assume that the Mercedes maintain their dominance, that neither driver succumbs to pressure in an event or that reliability doesn’t play a hand, then yes of course it would take Lewis many victories to close the gap, but if I could take you back to the 80’s when say Senna vs Prost was playing out, race victories only counted for nine points. In a certain respect those 29 points would be worth around 11 back then?

     In 1988, the Mclarens dominated and after seven of sixteen races, Prost led with 54 points, having 4 wins and 3 seconds. Senna had 39 with 3 victories, 2 seconds and 2 retirements. So he was a win and a second position behind him. Senna won the next four races with Prost claiming seconds throughout so that by the time they reached Monza, Senna still trailed Prost by 3 points.

     For Hammy to have the same deficit to Rosberg would mean actually trailing him by 43 points.

10. re. standing starts:
    https://twitter.com/mrjakehumphrey/statuses/483160596020748288

11. “Lapped car’s out of position will already have been instructed to un-lap themselves – though TJ13 is asking the FIA at present to use *a system where these cars just drive through the pits, wait at the end of the pit lane under a red light if necessary, and then rejoin the back of the snake*.”

    Finally an idea for lapped cars that makes a lot of sense!! I was mulling over this issue for some time now, and never quite could figure out what would be optimal to do. What you propose here makes so much sense: it’s quick, safe, and intuitive for all involved.

    And those lapped twice or thrice would simply have to repeat the procedure one or two more times..

    • … “And those lapped twice or thrice would simply have to repeat the procedure one or two more times..”

      That wouldn’t be necessary… there lap defect would still be counted but they wouldn’t be interfering with the points scoring drivers

      • “they wouldn’t be interfering with the points scoring drivers”

        Someone more pedantic could point out that lapped cars—even 5 laps down, for the matter—can still be in points-scoring positions. 🙂 Just ask Bianchi in his Marussia..

        • Also, how does that play with their fuel usage? That can affect their pace in the race. Will these cars get their lap back for going to the back? Why be unfair to the slower teams, just because F1 regs are bad at promoting overtaking/tracks don’t suit the racing?

          I don’t see why they can’t just unlap themselves and catch up quickly without deltas, with double yellows still at a crash scene if something is being cleared up. Only Chilton will crash into someone who is still driving under SC conditions.

          • Don’t you mean –

            Only Raikkonen will crash into someone who is still driving under SC conditions.

            ?????

          • It was clear on the TV at the time… as the cars came to tabac the other backmarkers moved up, passed those few in front and went about gaining their lap back. Chilton stayed in position and didn’t react…. probably on the next lap he was told “quick go, you are losing ground and the others already have their lap back”, so in haste he tried to get around Raikkonen and piled into him.

          • P.S. – the delta’s are there for the safety of the marshals

            so I can’t see them being changed –

            but this is Formula Gimmick we have now – so who knows ?

          • Yes, but the lapped cars are only released to do so when the incident is pretty much cleared up – but then it takes another 2 or 3 laps for them to catch the train back up, as they are still driving under delta….. but if the track is ready to go, they should release them from delta, and they’d be on the train ready to go after the next lap..

12. Re: standing restarts..

    You’re right, the lack of communication to clarify the rule needs to be sorted out.

    I think it was during the “ted notebook” segment, he asked Graeme Lowdon about the rule, and he said…

    “That it’s not actually a must that there’ll always be a standing restart, it was only just an option that’s available to use by Charlie, when he sees it necessary”

    So which is it?

    • Apparently there will be no restarts when ‘conditions are unsuitable for a standing restart’…whatever that means!

    • Means if it is a boring race then we see a standing restart…. someone will be instructed to do something stupid 🙂

      • Enter …..

        FLAV

        • exactly 😉

13. Judge, is there a bug in your system?

    Lately I’ve been trying to follow the comments on my phone and the more I scroll down, the text start to merge into a straight line for some of the comments, then back to normal.

    • That is a quirk of the mobile theme used.

      It has done this for a while.

      Any alternative available Judge? Maybe even just a mobile version off option.

      I’d offer to help.. But I’m sure you can figure out why I won’t.

    • Try disabling the Lewis Hamilton screen-saver.

      • LOL 🙂

    • It’s because we’ve allowed more comments in a thread Fortis. Used to be 5 nested under a headline comment – now it is 10.

      • Would 7 or 8 nested levels be a better compromise?

        • Possibly, I didn’t mind the old system but now at the furthest levels it is unreadable, like above.

          • not to me ……..

          • If you find the comments are down to a column of just a couple of characters, just turn ya phone through 90° to landscape orientation and it solves the problem on my phone (provided auto-rotate option is switched on) , I’m guessing it should work for other phones too. It’s like that on most WordPress sights, Will Buxton, Joe Saward, Adam Cooper etc.
            Hope that helps, it took me a while to suss it out.

          • I guess my problem is that I’m on a browser… but signing up for an account has opened my eyes to how bad WordPress is, I’m amazed that you can get pictures in articles here and writing on the side of it..

          • By browser, I mean PC..

        • hmm.. could do a bit less. I just saw Verstappen ask for less for mobile them, like 2-3 or less. Unfortunately the current platform is very limited in what we can develop so I have reduced it to 7 but hopefully we can change this when we do the facelift.

    • Mine does it too if I’m reading in portrait. If I rotate my phone to landscape it goes back to normal.

      • I soooo wanted this to be the answer… Unfortunately changing from portrait to landscape does do anything re these nested posts on my iPhone 4.

        B*gger! I’ll be getting RSI on my thumb next, from the frenetic swiping down. (Ooh er, I think you know what I mean!)

        • Sorry, that should read “does not do anything”…

14. “Mystery still enshrouds the future of the Leafield F1 team”

    I read that one of the posters here, Fortis96″ was buying the team. It will be renamed the Anglo-Fortis Racing Organization F1 team. Hamilton will move there next year.

    • Gosh, you really have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to Fortis and Hamilton, don’t you? 😉

      • He’s becoming a “fanboy”..😃😃😃

      • Clearly you missed the joke.

        • Joke? Was that suppose to be a joke….oops sorry I missed it, maybe I’ll catch it when it comes back around.

          I digress, but feel free to continue.

          • Anglo-Fortis Racing Organization – I’m guessing it spells A.F.R.O?? 😉

          • Hahahaha

          • The main sponsors will be “Afro combs”…😂😂😂

          • I think Fortis is from the home of the current World Cup….

          • Oh you are so wrong judge, so so wrong

    • And we will be looking to sign Cav as team principle, after all, who better to give the job to than the man who knows it all.

      • Brilliant 😀

      • With that management choice you wouldn’t last as long as HRT Fortis, hope you’ve plenty of money to burn.

        And plenty of patience too…

        • Well, Fortis and patience……….. they’ve never met.

          • But Gomer and stupidity has

          • That’s why they call me Gomer, yuk yuk. And by the way, it’s ‘Gomer and stupidity have’ not has.

15. “However, Ferrari are silent maybe because there have been recent whispers of Mugello being proposed for an F1 race.”…

    Who wants their palms read? I think I must be a clairvoyant, because I could’ve sworn I asked the judge, whether Mugello would be able to host a race, a few weeks ago.

    If I had to choose, it’s Monza over Monaco any day of the week.

    • …Mugello is too narrow for F1 racing IMHO…… unless they upgrade the circuit – beautiful place to go though…..

      • Hmm.. Is Mugello narrower than Monaco? If not, then I can’t see any objections there.

        • what about the speed differential ?

          Mugello is much much faster ……

          • Yep, MoToGP hits over 200mph down the straight. Stunning place though

          • totally agree Carlo

            a gorgeous circuit – but probably not suitable for F1 unfortunately

          • I remember Vale saying that the

            Casanova – Sevelli corners

            were his favourite

            of all the tracks he’d ever been to

      • If they do, let’s hope the contract doesn’t go to Tilke, he might put a chicane on the start/finish straight.

16. The track in the streets of Monaco is spectacular, the racing in the city is an amazing sight and when I was there for a Formula 1 weekend one time, the sound was almost orgasmic.

    That said, there’s actually very little sport happening and I can count the number of memorable races (or racing moments, for that matter) in recent years on one hand. But it’s exactly because Monaco is less about the sport and more about glitz, glamour, see and be seen and all that kind of stuff, that I’m convinced to see this race on the calender for as long as there is a Formula 1.

    On the other hand, Ecclestone knew he had the upper hand when he negotiated about a British GP, so he made sure he actually earned some money from the deal. I can understand perfectly well if he wants to try the same with the Italian Grand Prix in Monza, but first I don’t think they will let themselves be gouged like that and second he would insult pretty much the whole country if he came through with his threat.

    Would Ferrari be willing to provide an alternative to Monza? For one year, absolutely. But I can’t see them willing to pay 8 digit hosting fees year after year after year.

    • That’s assuming Bernie is not in some jail somewhere by then…

      • Here’s to hoping….

17. I wonder which team Palmer is talking to… only recently I suggested he might aim for Chilton’s seat at Marussia…. they need cash, but who doesn’t.

    If the rumour about Leimer is true, that he was offered reserve seat/Silverstone test for $5m (or unless I misunderstood, to replace Chilton for the second half of the year after a Silverstone test), then we could guess Chilton’s sponsorships of say $5m, after Aon $10m last year ran out, are now not enough..

    Bianchi has brought $30m more for next year from Monaco, after Chilton’s help in taking out some rivals, so if Palmer can muster together more than $5m (or whatever Chilton brings for the year), then perhaps he can have his seat for 2015; being GP2 champion could give him more credibility, and I imagine he’ll be slightly more competitive to Bianchi.

    • Button has Chilton’s seat sewn up…..

      • Not if he’s demanding a $10m+ salary or can’t bring sponsors of at least $5m 😀

18. Ecclestone must have forgotten that Gene Hass and Forza Rosa have been given entries into F1. It must be his age lol
    Even if Caterham were to close, by 2016 we should be up to 12 teams again and if Caterham don’t close then we will have 13 teams. It’s the way the cash gets distributed that’s is the real problem, if all teams can stay afloat and then get 2 new ones as well, at the end of each season 3 teams will get diddly squat (nothing). That surely cannot continue as a remuneration model. All teams should see a minimum payout at least. I get the feeling Bernie’s days are numbered, if not by the Munich prosecutor then by the grim reaper.

19. If Monza is dropped Ecclestone has to find a country willing to waste it’s oil wealth on a GP. He need only look north. The newly independent country of Scotland would be an ideal place. It could be the Barr’s Irn Bru GP of Scotland.

    • @ Cav

      have you ever seen Knockhill ?

      • I was once there. It’s too short.

        • indeed

          only just longer than Princes Street, Edinburgh

          and as for the Buckfast – even tho it’s mostly imbibed here – it is English

          Don’t see them sponsoring a Scottish event 😉

      • Or maybe the Buckfast GP of Scotland…………

    • …. God help us if you are right Cav…. Deep Fried Mars bars sold at every food stall, And a drunken jock sat on every row muttering into his pint of 70 shilling something about Bannockburn.. 😉

      • Judge

        70 shilling – pffft

        110 or 120 shilling is more like it

        or a half and half

        –

        and you still don’t get it about the deep fried Mars Bar …….. do you ?

      • Smashing place Scotland. Super friendly punters everywhere.

        Love when they, and the Welsh, come to Dublin for the Rugby. Great craic, and plenty of respect shown from both sides.

        The Italians and French don’t mingle so much, most likely due to language barrier, but it has improved over the last 5 years mainly due to the Hino cup games against Leinster.

        The English are a funny breed. Most of them are totally and utterly superb – respectful, knowlegeable, great fun, mix well, relaxed and generally up for a laugh.

        The other group really need to remove their heads from their arses and chillax a little bit. Being around this latter group is like being surrounded by hundreds of John Terrys, desperately trying to be something that they’ve never been – classy.

        Poor dears dont understand that there is a fine line between jingoism / xenophobia and flat out racisim.

        Still don’t get where this superiority streak comes from now, although I could understand it from times past.

        I blame Clarkson – the man is an insufferable gobsheen, an underhanded racist menace and an embarrassment to all sane thinking English people, everywhere.

        And that’s my tangent for the day. Hope you enjoyed Scotland, Rugby and Top Gear. Not a smidgen of F1 anywhere…..

        • You’d be seeing the north south divide there I imagine, I guess we could argue which side is which.

20. No news on the “new” investors of Catherham. Frijns is driving this weekend, am hearing words of some “Dutch” investors, some people involved with Christian Albers??? I surely hope not true ….. Albers may be a better teamboss than race driver, hahaha.

    • There may in fact not be any….

      • Sort of like the new investors in last years Genii fiasco……..?

    • At least he gets another run out… he needs to establish himself before Max “6 wins in a row, FIA F3 in my rookie car season” Verstappen turns about 19..

21. Re: who throws stuff..

    Wer ist hier eigentlich überrascht? Mit der Klapperkiste hätt ich den Schwachstromelektrikern bei Renault das Ave Maria durch die Gräten geflötet. Und was bringt das News-Item überhaupt. Jeder der den aktuellen Zustand bei Red Bull einfach so hinnimmt sollte mal den Dnertier weglassen…

    • Erm… nooo…

      (Speaks really slowly)

      Please, 2 Beers and 3 Hotdogs.

      (Whispers to friend)

      Foreigners…

    • …it is a story when Red Bull go to great lengths to deny it via the Red Bull Spy’s attempt to copy Ferrari’s Horse WHisperer.

      ‘It won’t have escaped your notice that this hasn’t been our smoothest winter. The RB10 is a complicated beast and we’ve got a job list the length of the Shanghai back straight to get through. But we’re getting through it. Everyone’s doing long hours and we’re all fairly knackered – though actually that’s no different to when the car’s spot-on. The team manager and the chief bolt both firmly believe the Devil makes work for idle hands. Unfortunately the long list of things they consider evidence of idleness includes sleeping and eating regular meals,’ the post read.

      We do, however, get the opportunity to make our own entertainment, one avenue to which is reading some of the more lurid speculation that’s flying around. Our favourite today is the one about Seb apparently having a massive hissy fit in Jerez, refusing to drive the car because it wasn’t very good, and storming off in a huff.

      ‘A major news broadcaster posted the story this morning, along with the line “No-one outside the team knows whether it happened or not, and those on the inside wouldn’t say.

      ‘Eh? Run that by me again?

      ‘I suppose it could be true. Maybe four World Championships really have turned him into a screaming primadonna. Perhaps what really happened is Seb leapt out of the car and started foaming at the mouth. He made a very rude gesture in the direction of Adrian, snarled at Rocky, kicked Ole in the spanners and then stormed out of the garage, saddled his unicorn and rode back to Switzerland.

      ‘Meanwhile Adrian’s lost his copy of the Illustrated Junior Encyclopaedia of Motorsport and says he can’t design without it. Daniel’s sulking is really starting to get everyone down, Dr Marko has decided to return to his roots and become a dubstep producer under his street name DJ Graz and, after his New York residency last summer, Christian’s far more interested in street art than F1 anyway.

      ‘Seb, meanwhile has sent us a postcard, and says he’s really sorry for all the fuss. He’ll be back soon but has decided to chill for a while by spending a couple of weeks watching daytime soaps and eating crisps ’round at Mark’s house.

      ‘Maybe that’s what happening. It’s certainly a rumour. No one outside the team knows for sure and those inside won’t say…”

      • Maybe you two should just have sex already… The tension here is palpable…

        Your both all over each others ass’s already.

        😀

        • …symptomatic of TJ13 criticising anyone’s pet team’s/driver I’m afraid…

          plus if anyone questions why we publish anything – I’ll always explain why…

          Further – in that story was the REVELATION – that all the drivers/or most – don’t want standing starts…….

          Was in fact very newsworthy…..

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